"Should Men Be Allowed To Cheat, Even If They Have Their Woman's Permission?"
kdiesel: That's a good question, my answer would have to be yes and no, The reason for the "yes" is because if they are not married then you are still single. I know there should be a sense of commitment and trust but until you're married, you're still single (free). Now I'm not saying go out there and sleep with the world or even be on a rampage hurting women. If you really want to be with her then just be with her but if you still want to play them go play and let her know. I also said "no" because if you're married then you have one wife and that's it. You made a covenant unto the Lord.
Prince2D: Before I answer this question,I would like to propose a rhetorical question for thought........
"If you were given permission to cheat (HAVE SEX WITH WHOMEVER YOU CHOOSE TOO HAVE IT WITH) what is or would be the first thing YOU would do?"
Whatever your answer is, take that and say half of the world would do what you said and half the world would do the total opposite. So I say all that to say "A man with permission to cheat is a receipt for a dying world". It's equivalent to sharing a drug needle, or randomly sleeping with people knowing you have HIV. I make sound that bad because in so many instances it is really just that bad. For a woman to give her man permission to cheat, open the doors for so many hazardous arenas....let alone its totally goes against Godly teaching!!!
Giving a man/woman permission to Cheat is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah rules....and we know how that ends. It was one point where Cheating was look down upon and people were really trying to stop because the hurt that it cause so many people and families. Even back in the day when Woman knew there husbands were cheating, they didn't give them permission but they also couldn't stop it or leave either but Now everything is coming back to full circle worst and harder then before. Cheating with Permission its an excuse for men and women to "Go Along to get along", or to "compromise what they cannot prevent or stop" and at the end everyone has been blinded to believe that this is actually working.
Sideshow: Wow, what a question, indeed the flesh jumps for joy if your mate said that you can cheat, but then you begin to wonder, if I'm sleeping around then she must be sleeping around also, and I just can't handle the fact that my boo is being tossed up like I'm tossing another shawty up...so to speak. I don't think that I'll be able to handle it on my end if the tables were turned, so my answer would be thanks, but no thanks. Not to mention we both have a past and you know what they say, when you sleep with your mate, you are sleeping with everybody that they haave slept with also....ewwwwwwww, that's one to grow on!!!!!!
Sideshow: @kdiesel & @Prince2d: You both make sense, but I'm quite sure that when a man first hears that he can go soil his royal oats, don't think that GOD comes to mind, only after he has done his do, then he begins to have a revelation.
Prince2D: @ Kdiesel: I see your point and no it wasn't establish as to who the rules apply to and honestly this question can be answered very differently depending who's answering and from there point of veiw...but lets think about this - whether your married, single and dating or both.......no one should be out there just having the time of there life with any and every woman... yes if your single you can date, interview, meet. court whatever...but if your in a relationship and your mate says "Sure you can date other woman" or however she puts it..... (and I speaking solely on the physical piece) because in my mind if your woman give you permission to CHEAT, you or any other man is not going out there with the intentions start any "emotional" tides with another woman...your going to go out there and "handle your business" with another woman and the emotional tides with come soon after "It may come". Yes cheating is more then having Sex but in this case unless specified differently...I'm almost 99.9% sure that when they say "Cheat with permission" they mean "your free to have sex with whoever you want". And about that whole Sodom and Gomorrah piece ( I speak about that in regards to those that know whats right and wrong and continue to do what they please) - and is that case it really is similar because to go out and have your way with other women knowing you you have your one at home is a sign that you clearly don't care about the will of God and don't plan on obeying either.
jwriter: @everyone: Man thank you guys so very much for your comments so far. I'm absolutely amazed at the dialogue and the content of your responses. I'm very impressed at the level of discussion we are able to have. Now as far as my answer, I think that it is important that we understand cheating is never right in any circumstances. If you want to have more than one woman to tap, have sex with, smash, crush, break headboards with; you need not to get into a relationship with anyone. Hands down!!! No questions asked, whether single and especially married. We have to look at the world we live in though. We live in a world where it is OK for married couples to swing, and for singles to have the time of their lives...(I wish I was one of those singles LOL j/k), but really we are sowing into a world full of hurt, destruction, and false doctrines when it comes to relationships. That is why a woman would be stupid enough to give her man permission to cheat, because she is tired of being hurt, lied to, and cheated on. She wants to be in control of the cheating so to speak and still be able to have someone to hold her at night. Again thank you intelligent brothers for commenting and we have until Saturday, before the forum closes. Thanks!!!!
Kdiesel: @everyone: So is it consider cheating when a men have more then one wife? As we know that still exist. I guess that can be an example of a woman giving her man permission to cheat.
jwriter: @Kdiesel: man Kdiesel I was once on a quest to find one wife, how in the world would I be able to handle more than one. I'm not even talking about the physical aspect of the marriage, but the emotional, the arguments, the financial, the horror man the horror LOL! I think that plural marriage is a whole other discussion, but one that definitely needs to be discussed. I think it is just a beautiful way to cheat in a sense, "Let's get married to each other and I can have five wives, under the principles of marriage, and repoplulate the earth. it's not cheating or perverted; it's how the world should be." I'm sorry to say, but swinging, plural marriage, open marriages, and marriage to animals (WOW) are all forms of cheating; but it does make for a great conversation. Can you imagine how that conversation would go? LOL.
Kdiesel: @jwriter: LOL. That will be a discussion that will be very interesting. One that I always wonder about.
dboy87 @ kdiesel: Man I think its just crazy. How would a man be able to pull it off staying committed to not just one but five women. He prolly got alot of money too if he has to pay five mortgages lol I personally think it is cheating, and feel bad for the women if they don't know that is doing it.
So after reading what the Men had to say; what do you guys think?
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4 comments:
This was an extremely interesting conversation. A couple of months ago, I had a similar conversation with a male coworker and my dad. My father said once he married my mother, he NEVER (his emphasis) cheated on her. When I asked about cheating on his girlfriends, he didn't say Yes but he didn't say No either. He was like, "Well, there was no commitment there..." LOL Interesting indeed.
Let me ask this.. are the guys who are adding their thoughts Christian men? I just got that sense when reading it... but a key point was discussed.. if you aren't married..you're single. I think women have a hard time with this.. especially the older we get.. we see our friends getting married and we want the same. So we want a serious relationship NOW! Before I was saved I did an open relationship thing on my end..and invited my ex into the pic. You get the gist... and I ended up setting myself up for heartbreak...he left me for another chic. I say if folks do that.. they need to be honest with themselves with the STD rates out here. Its not safe.. and not worth it. Folks need to have open lines of communication at all times.
@McClain- yeah they are Christian men LOL. I'm so happy that you have read this and left a comment I really do appreciate that. Thanks and happy blogging.
I agree with the Minister with regards to it depending on who you ask and what that persons convictions are. I can only speak from my viewpoint and convictions as a Christian woman. My husband will be the head of our household and thus is responsible for the spiritual direction of our family, is to be upheld as our protector and provider, and is the man to whom I am to submit, so if I am to submit to him as Lord, he needs to operate with integrity as does the Lord.
We are a representation of Christ...so for me to allow my husband to firstly dishonor God, and secondly to dishonor me by breaking the covenant he made before God to me, and lastly to dishonor the children that God gave him through me, means that there is something wrong with me and I am sharing in the disobedience of the temporary gratification of his flesh.
I am unmarried now and currently not in a relationship, but I will (with respect to the question being posed) under no circumstances give the enemy a free pass to destroy the sanctity of marriage (in my marriage) as God has designed it.
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